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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 30, 2012 10:17:56 GMT -5
It's so contradictory it's not even funny.
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Post by PlainJaneDoe on Jul 30, 2012 10:26:43 GMT -5
Honestly, it seems like there are so many white trucks down there, maybe the eyewitnesses were right. And it just happened that the guy with the white truck wasn't the killer. You know what I mean? It seems justimo that the odds that these women were in a white truck with a white guy at some point are very good. But I guess the eyewitnesses all described the same white guy? In that case my theory would be out the window. (Ok not even my theory, just that idea.)
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 30, 2012 10:30:25 GMT -5
I just don't know PJD, honestly, just when I think I have the scum bag pegged, another curve ball gets thrown in.
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 30, 2012 10:52:36 GMT -5
ACI, did you ever hear back from Kasey Lyons, wife or GF or whatever she was?
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Post by whoknew on Jul 30, 2012 11:11:41 GMT -5
It's so contradictory it's not even funny. No way in hell would that guy pass as a white man. That's what I wondered also - but dna matched black guy?
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Post by whoknew on Jul 30, 2012 11:13:36 GMT -5
Honestly, it seems like there are so many white trucks down there, maybe the eyewitnesses were right. And it just happened that the guy with the white truck wasn't the killer. You know what I mean? It seems justimo that the odds that these women were in a white truck with a white guy at some point are very good. But I guess the eyewitnesses all described the same white guy? In that case my theory would be out the window. (Ok not even my theory, just that idea.) I think you're thinking what I'm thinking? What if BSL worked with him for a few of the killings. But then he was in prison for some of them - just need to match the white truck victims with the dates and BSL?
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 30, 2012 11:14:47 GMT -5
It's so contradictory it's not even funny. No way in hell would that guy pass as a white man. That's what I wondered also - but dna matched black guy? Yep, mixed race, apparently they did a test that was able to tell that the main racial profile strand was African American. I don't know that I trust that. Something just seems way off to me.
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Post by foxfire on Jul 30, 2012 11:15:44 GMT -5
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 30, 2012 11:16:45 GMT -5
Cool!! Glad people are paying attention.
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Post by whoknew on Jul 30, 2012 11:18:01 GMT -5
No way in hell would that guy pass as a white man. That's what I wondered also - but dna matched black guy? Yep, mixed race, apparently they did a test that was able to tell that the main racial profile strand was African American. I don't know that I trust that. Something just seems way off to me. When you look at his booking photo, the man is black - not as in could be a dark white - he's obviously black. Yet witnesses described his as white. So either there were 2 working at the same time, 2 working together, or whoever the witnesses saw was not the correct person.
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Post by PlainJaneDoe on Jul 30, 2012 11:19:02 GMT -5
No way in hell would that guy pass as a white man. That's what I wondered also - but dna matched black guy? Yep, mixed race, apparently they did a test that was able to tell that the main racial profile strand was African American. I don't know that I trust that. Something just seems way off to me. Right, but they did then match DTL's individual DNA to the samples, no?
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Post by whoknew on Jul 30, 2012 11:19:12 GMT -5
BTW - who is gillis?
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Post by whoknew on Jul 30, 2012 11:20:43 GMT -5
Yep, mixed race, apparently they did a test that was able to tell that the main racial profile strand was African American. I don't know that I trust that. Something just seems way off to me. Right, but they did then match DTL's individual DNA to the samples, no? yes - so the witnesses describing the white guy were describing someone other than DTL.
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 30, 2012 11:22:58 GMT -5
Yep, mixed race, apparently they did a test that was able to tell that the main racial profile strand was African American. I don't know that I trust that. Something just seems way off to me. When you look at his booking photo, the man is black - not as in could be a dark white - he's obviously black. Yet witnesses described his as white. So either there were 2 working at the same time, 2 working together, or whoever the witnesses saw was not the correct person. Oh I know it, there is no mistaking him for a white man no matter how you slice it. I think that either someone else was working with DTL or Brandon was. Basically, these are the cold hard facts of Brandon's life:1997-1998: dropped out of high school between Junior & Senior year- Church Point High April 1999: BSL earns GED and was serving in the Army at Fort Polk April 12, 1999: BSL committed aggravated oral sexual battery June 1999: Lisa Pate reported missing September 17, 1999: BSL gets married to Lainey Vasseur September 21, 1999: Pate’s body found December 24, 1999: 1st domestic abuse incident causing wife to seek medical care January 18, 2000: BSL & wife no longer live together February 2000: 2nd domestic abuse incident February 9, 2000: BSL’s wife files for a protective order February 25, 2000: BSL pleads guilty for aggravated oral sexual battery. Sentenced to 10 years September 2000: BSL’s daughter is born October 16, 2000: Divorce is finalized August 9, 2008: BSL released from prison February 10, 2010: Released from parole supervision July 2010: Bought property & mobile home in St Landry parish (Bayou Ridge subdivision)
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Post by PlainJaneDoe on Jul 30, 2012 11:23:08 GMT -5
Yep, mixed race, apparently they did a test that was able to tell that the main racial profile strand was African American. I don't know that I trust that. Something just seems way off to me. When you look at his booking photo, the man is black - not as in could be a dark white - he's obviously black. Yet witnesses described his as white. So either there were 2 working at the same time, 2 working together, or whoever the witnesses saw was not the correct person. No I agree with you, and I would like to just throw it out there that eyewitness testimony is often unreliable. But again if multiple witnesses are independently describing the same whit guy in a white truck...I dunno.
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Post by foxfire on Jul 30, 2012 11:24:10 GMT -5
'Emulator of DTL'.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Vincent_GillisSean Vincent Gillis Number of victims 8 Baton Rouge, Louisiana Sean Vincent Gillis is a convicted serial killer that stalked, kidnapped, raped, murdered, and mutilated eight Louisiana women between 1994 and 2003 in the Baton Rouge Metro and surrounding areas. He was arrested without incident at his residence on Burgin Road at 1:30 a.m. on April 29, 2004. In his initial arrest, he was charged with three counts of first degree murder and three counts of ritualistic acts in the murders of 29 year-old Katherine Hall, 45 year-old Johnnie Mae Williams and 43 year-old Donna Bennett Johnston. At 7:00 am. Gillis confessed to the murders with little coercion and then informed investigators about four other women that he had murdered.[1] read more...
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 30, 2012 11:24:37 GMT -5
Yep, mixed race, apparently they did a test that was able to tell that the main racial profile strand was African American. I don't know that I trust that. Something just seems way off to me. Right, but they did then match DTL's individual DNA to the samples, no? Supposidly. But what if one was the driver, and one killed? I don't know how both wouldn't leave DNA, that's the only problem. Why only DTL's found?
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Post by whoknew on Jul 30, 2012 11:25:45 GMT -5
'Emulator of DTL'.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Vincent_GillisSean Vincent Gillis thanks! From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Number of victims 8 Country USA State(s) Louisiana Sean Vincent Gillis is a convicted serial killer that stalked, kidnapped, raped, murdered, and mutilated eight Louisiana women between 1994 and 2003 in the Baton Rouge Metro and surrounding areas. He was arrested without incident at his residence on Burgin Road at 1:30 a.m. on April 29, 2004. In his initial arrest, he was charged with three counts of first degree murder and three counts of ritualistic acts in the murders of 29 year-old Katherine Hall, 45 year-old Johnnie Mae Williams and 43 year-old Donna Bennett Johnston. At 7:00 am. Gillis confessed to the murders with little coercion and then informed investigators about four other women that he had murdered.[1] read mor thanks!
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 30, 2012 11:27:34 GMT -5
'Emulator of DTL'.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Vincent_GillisSean Vincent Gillis Number of victims 8 Baton Rouge, Louisiana Sean Vincent Gillis is a convicted serial killer that stalked, kidnapped, raped, murdered, and mutilated eight Louisiana women between 1994 and 2003 in the Baton Rouge Metro and surrounding areas. He was arrested without incident at his residence on Burgin Road at 1:30 a.m. on April 29, 2004. In his initial arrest, he was charged with three counts of first degree murder and three counts of ritualistic acts in the murders of 29 year-old Katherine Hall, 45 year-old Johnnie Mae Williams and 43 year-old Donna Bennett Johnston. At 7:00 am. Gillis confessed to the murders with little coercion and then informed investigators about four other women that he had murdered.[1] read more... So maybe it was Gillis who worked with DTL?
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Post by cajunlady75 on Jul 30, 2012 11:30:20 GMT -5
Right, but they did then match DTL's individual DNA to the samples, no? yes - so the witnesses describing the white guy were describing someone other than DTL. I think the witnesses ever got a good description. They saw him supposedly driving on I-10. If you have ever traveled that road at night it is very dark and I can't see how they could have been able to tell that much. JMO. His DNA matched to all crimes. And BSL was in jail during that time. He may have studied DTL, but don't think there was any involvement. I don't think either one would share their crimes. There was never anything pointing to DTL had help.
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Post by Lcbrn on Jul 30, 2012 11:32:27 GMT -5
'Emulator of DTL'.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Vincent_GillisSean Vincent Gillis Number of victims 8 Baton Rouge, Louisiana Sean Vincent Gillis is a convicted serial killer that stalked, kidnapped, raped, murdered, and mutilated eight Louisiana women between 1994 and 2003 in the Baton Rouge Metro and surrounding areas. He was arrested without incident at his residence on Burgin Road at 1:30 a.m. on April 29, 2004. In his initial arrest, he was charged with three counts of first degree murder and three counts of ritualistic acts in the murders of 29 year-old Katherine Hall, 45 year-old Johnnie Mae Williams and 43 year-old Donna Bennett Johnston. At 7:00 am. Gillis confessed to the murders with little coercion and then informed investigators about four other women that he had murdered.[1] read more... So maybe it was Gillis who worked with DTL? They didn't work together. Gillis actually got a kick out of the fact that he was able to get away with (at the time) many murders because the heat was on DTL.
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Post by whoknew on Jul 30, 2012 11:35:35 GMT -5
Right, but they did then match DTL's individual DNA to the samples, no? Supposidly. But what if one was the driver, and one killed? I don't know how both wouldn't leave DNA, that's the only problem. Why only DTL's found? why would BSL agree to this - would this be enough to satisy his needs at that time? Watching?
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 30, 2012 11:36:43 GMT -5
So maybe it was Gillis who worked with DTL? They didn't work together. Gillis actually got a kick out of the fact that he was able to get away with (at the time) many murders because the heat was on DTL. Ahhhhh ok, understand now.
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 30, 2012 11:37:55 GMT -5
Supposidly. But what if one was the driver, and one killed? I don't know how both wouldn't leave DNA, that's the only problem. Why only DTL's found? why would BSL agree to this - would this be enough to satisy his needs at that time? Watching? That would depend on how old he was, how old would Brandon have been when DTL was doing his thing?
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 30, 2012 11:40:57 GMT -5
why would BSL agree to this - would this be enough to satisy his needs at that time? Watching? That would depend on how old he was, how old would Brandon have been when DTL was doing his thing? Nope, no matter how you slice it, Brandon would have been in jail. I think DTL started in 2002.
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