IDAHO, FOUND ALIVE

[Paula]

Shasta And Dylan Groene Found: Joseph Duncan Arrested
As reported here, eight-year-old Shasta Groene, missing along with brother Dylan since early May has been found alive after being recognized in a Lake Coeur d'Alene Denny's.

Someone live on phone with Fox now reporting 9 year old Dylan has also been found. Reports state that 42 year old Joseph Duncan of Fargo North Dakatoa has been taken into custody.

This post is also available at Blogger News Network.

' I am in tears at this, some are saved, good news, after bad some days ago. We are all so pleased this was on blogger network, and is on FOX.

[Jan]

Paula,

Dylan is still missing, the sheriff said on the short conferrence that he has not been fond yet ((( they think the kidnapper is not giving him up so he can cut a deal (

Also, the kidnapper has some sort of website about not prosecuting offenders.......

JM

[paula]

Police say Dylan is deceased, Shasta said her brother is in heaven, read cassies site as am so tired with praying to the other side. How do you in tell a parent you see them talking to you. Some do and as you know and people know I have posted off line and asked how.

I am distraught and though distraught campaign that chemical castration for level 11 and level 111 be a law that is cast. We can do that, make it happen.

[gestalt]

Thank you. Saw this all over the news this a.m. and am still in tears over it. And who saved Shasta? The waitress at Denny's--God Bless her. It says in one article that she delayed them leaving by talking this creep into a milkshake for Shasta until the police could get there.

How the hell did this evil person get ahold of these kids?

You know, it just emphasizes the fact that these perverts get around. It doesn't matter if they register--they are not staying where they register, people.

I have been saying this from the beginning of the investigation into Dru's disappearance. These criminals are allowed to have cars! and the public has no right to know what their vehicles are or plate #'s are. They go where they want and do what they want.

God help us.

[LadyBlue]

I'm glad at least Shasta is alive, and you are so right Gestalt, why and how are the rights of the criminals overpowering us the citizens of the USA? Why are they permitted to just run loose, and that's exactly what they are doing, because it seems that no one is really doing anything about keeping them where they belong, or even keeping track of where they go.

I'm so damned tired of hearing about yet another child or adult being snatched up and taken by a pervert. Why is this so difficult for LE and our legislators to understand? What is wrong with this picture.

PLEASE, EVERYONE, EMAIL YOUR CONGRESS MEMBERS AND LET'S TRY TO GET SOME SANITY BACK ONTO THE STREETS OF OUR CITIES AND TOWNS!

[huntone]

This is the purpose behind the creation of something like ART.

It is obvious that this will have to start as a private entity for the authorities are totaling unwilling to do anything unless the people (the general populace) force them to.

[Paula]

Read this sadist, child murderer, paedophiles blogg, he went to university 2000 - 2002 and got a good job in IT after 20 years in prison. That is what I have been telling Earl. These beasts learn to be smarter than the law man who has no degree as he is working and cannot afford it. He perfects his art, and they give him a job that the waitress who caught him would dearly love to have.

And that is what drives them, the opportunities inside that are cushier than waiting tables.


Read the mind I know so well of the dissociated selfish predator and see how you like me can spot it when you have been in their hands.

fifthnail.blogspot.com/

[huntone]

Thank you, Paula.

I hope everyone takes note as you have, that it was NOT the police who caught this man and saved a little girls life. It WAS a normal citizen. A waitress that cared enough to get involved.

This again illustrates why WE, the people of these United States need to band together to form such groups as ART, and put our expertise to work.

We are the solution. And inaction is the problem. The system is broke, WE HAVE TO FIX IT.!!!!!

[gestalt]

Been reading news stories this a.m., tears dropping like rain, can't help it.

Now what? Dillon. They better work fast.

I have to say that my original take on where the kids might be had to do with some kind of organized pedophile ring.

This Duncan guy had a website. All kinds of connections he made through that website. How the hell did he end up with Shasta? And, he was "interested" in boys, right?

Did he pass Dillon to some other pervert?

My feeling is that this Duncan guy was part of a much larger picture.

[gestalt]

OK hunt, don't you know that I can definitely "relate" to what you are saying. You're saying "let's DO something" to stop this.

Easier said than done.

And I would curb the anti-law tone you're throwing out there before you (we) become the focus of attention not wanted. And I think that I have a right to say this, being that I've been posting here longer than you.

1. I would venture to say that most people don't even know about our web site.

2. IT TAKES TIME TO ESTABLISH TRUST. I feel I need to shout to get your attention. No we don't have time, but ranting about it isn't going to make things happen any faster.

You can't just blindly trust anyone any more, even if people profess the best of intentions and are the most pure of heart (and I believe you are those things).

People can be masters at lying and manipulating and it's difficult for people to establish trust when we read stories every day where a person appears one way (good) and is in fact another (evil), as Paula has said. It's a very frightening world.

So, we have to PROVE our integrity, and that takes TIME and PATIENCE.

Sorry for shouting.

[gestalt]

Commentary on this case at:
www.throwawaythekey.org/latestnews.php
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and, it's OK just rent the perv a car to go wherever he wants. (my comment)

[huntone]

I am glad you are still posting here Gestalt. And are willing to point out the weaknesses in posts I make, since I am very action orientated.

Do not worry however, I do not intend to go on a campaign against LE. I just thought this a good opportunity to try to wake a few people up. including LE.

As to you pointing out that there are not too many people that know of this site, your statement illustrates that we need to do more to bring people here.

With such good minds, as yours here. They could see and learn alot. And add to this site. Especially the friends and families of the victims, we try to help in our currently limited way.

Your point of time to build trust is another excellent point, but I feel that time is not on our side in this. The recent deaths of kidnapped and abused childrem seems to show this.

I too find it very difficult to trust people, preferring to believe their actions and not their words generally speaking. But as Mystic can tell you I am not a very patient man when it comes to children being hurt in any way.

You are a fine, intelligent person so I think and hope you will continue to point out to me and others where you believe I am overboard or wrong. It invites discussion and makes me think things out better.

Posts such as your last above are good for making us all think about different angles and interpretations of all the factors involved with these case.

I thank you for your words.

[Paula]

The boy I have been getting is dead, at least they found him early. His step grandmother has been charged. He was found in woodland away from the home. Fox News

[Paula]

Because men do not realize their own actions kill the object of their fantasy there is no rehabilitation. More victims die from either choking when a person blocks that persons airway. That is the most simple I can make it. They also die from fluid inhalation, dry water drowning. They also die from arterial bleeding of the femoral artery, and septic shock. Paedophiles do not think of cleanliness, of others pain and of infection, they have one aim and that is instant, easy recall to whatever fantasy they wish.

They target single parents, rogue parents with addictions, and those like themselves. I am not saying any of this was done to Dylan, but his past record makes him an abuser who abuses with rage young boys. And this guy is a sadist as most are devoid of pain. They have reached a thresh hold where feelings are not in their psyche. Narcissistic personality disorder, sociopath, psychopath are interrelated variables.

This man got so sure of himself having the kindness of his Professors and new identity he used that trust to become what he had not been before, stronger, more controlled and sure of himself. He left his home and his cats to die with no food as his nephew said on his blog.

This man is cunning and to find Dylan his sister is the only key. Why did he take Shasta to a late night diner? Because she was his date, who do you think washed her hair, or is there a woman which I doubt. This guy is a man who plays his own game. I do not think he had the balls to kill the older brother, mother and the boyfriend even with his marshal arts con. I think as said that they were passed on.

He stayed in the area as his work and the ring is in the area. The list on the police board shows there are more than him at large.

When this is over, and the tears have dried. I would like for Shasta to come over to UK with her aunt to a safe and lovely tranquility. I am sure there are enough benefactors out there that are entrepreneurs who have helped out at my corporate charities to make that happen. There is also the Make a Wish Foundation.

[LadyBlue]

Just thought I should put this here so we know the latest on the case

[glow=red,2,300]COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (CNN) -- The father of an 8-year-old girl, missing in the aftermath of a triple homicide at her mother's house six weeks ago, was reunited with his daughter Saturday, hours after she was found alive in a Denny's restaurant with a convicted sex offender.[/glow]
Steve Groene was out of town when Shasta was found around 2 a.m. (5 a.m. ET) and rushed back to this community. The two were reunited at Kootenai Medical Center Saturday afternoon.

"There's no greater love between a parent and a child, and having a child come back to you has got to be a great experience," Kootenai County Sheriff Capt. Ben Wolfinger told CNN.

But the reunion was mixed with sadness, as investigators told the father they believe his 9-year-old son Dylan, who disappeared with Shasta, may be dead.

Shasta was found at a Denny's restaurant in Coeur d'Alene, just miles from the home where she was last reported seen, said Wolfinger.

In her company was 42-year-old Joseph Edward Duncan III of Fargo, North Dakota, who has outstanding warrants for his arrest and may face further charges, Wolfinger said.

Shasta was taken to the Kootenai Medical Center, a hospital spokeswoman said. Wolfinger said she appeared "to be in generally good health."

Wolfinger said authorities had information that Shasta's 9-year-old brother, Dylan, is dead. Both children had been missing since May 16, when their mother, a brother and their mother's boyfriend were found beaten to death in the mother's Coeur D'Alene home, Wolfinger said.

"Our best information right now is that Dylan is deceased," Wolfinger said. Authorities described the boy as 4 feet tall, 60 pounds, with crew-cut blond hair and blue eyes.

They had all been seen alive at a get-together of family and friends Sunday, May 15.

The coroner's office said 40-year-old Brenda Groene, her 37-year-old boyfriend, Mark McKenzie, and her 13-year-old son, Slade, died of blunt force trauma to the head and that each had been bound.

Wolfinger said while it was "too early to tell" if Duncan had any connection with the slayings, investigators were "working all the angles in this case."

He said he was "very surprised" the girl and Duncan were found so near her home.

Wolfinger said Coeur d'Alene police received a call from the Denny's restaurant about 2 a.m.

Several people in the restaurant said they immediately recognized the girl, whose picture has been widely circulated in the media.

Amber Deahn, the waitress attending the man and girl's table, went to look at the restaurant's "missing" poster of Shasta, but it was gone. A manager said Duncan tore the poster from the wall shortly after he entered.

The girl seemed especially closed off and the man with her was high-strung, Deahn said. Another witness said she was relaxed, coloring and drinking a soda.

Deahn said she made every effort to keep the girl in the restaurant before police arrived.

"I made sure to make a large shake instead of a child's shake," Deahn said. "We wanted to make sure to take just long enough to where if it turned out to be nothing we could say, 'Hey our shake machine's running a little slow.' "

"We didn't want to cause any suspicion." (Full story) www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/02/deahn/index.html

One of the cooks said he blocked the restaurant's back entrance in case the man tried to make a getaway.

Coeur d'Alene police detained Duncan at the restaurant until Kootenai County deputies arrived to arrest him.

Deahn said she comforted the girl who burst into tears after police took the man away.

"I would really hope that if my children, God forbid, ever went missing, somebody would do the same," Deahn said.

Wolfinger said investigators had obtained a search warrant for the red 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Duncan was driving.

He said the vehicle was reported stolen from St. Paul, Minnesota, in early May, and that the license plates were stolen in Newton County, Missouri, a few days before.

Duncan's arrest record goes back to a 1980 rape conviction in Pierce County, Washington, when he was 16.

His last address was in Fargo, North Dakota, where he was a registered sex offender, but he is listed as "delinquent" on the North Dakota offenders Web page.

"One of his outstanding warrants is failure to register as a sex offender in Washington," Wolfinger said. "The other is an unlawful flight to avoid prosecution out of Minnesota for second-degree sexual offense."

According to the Detroit Lakes, Minnesota, Police Department, Duncan was charged in early March with molesting a 7-year-old boy near a middle school in Becker County in July 2004.

The department issued a warrant for his arrest when he violated the terms of release from an April 5 court appearance.

Wolfinger said Duncan runs a Web site that advocates against prosecuting sex offenders. CNN was unable to locate the site.

In his 1980 conviction in Washington, Duncan pleaded guilty to abducting and raping a 14-year-old boy at gunpoint, burning the victim with a cigarette and firing the gun -- on empty chambers -- causing him to believe he would be killed, according to a description from the North Dakota sex offender registry.

Upon turning 17, Duncan was transferred to adult court where he pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 20 years in prison, according to the city of Fargo.

He was released on parole in 1994 after serving 14 years, but returned to prison for a parole violation in 1997.

On July 14, 2000, he was released at the end of his prison term, and on July 21 he arrived in Fargo, where he immediately enrolled at North Dakota State University. (Full story)

On his personal Web site at the school, Duncan claimed he was an honor student studying computer science and said he expected to graduate in May.

David Wahlberg, a school spokesman, said Duncan did not graduate. He said the university was aware of the charges in Minnesota.

Duncan will make his first official court appearance in Kootenai County Tuesday at 2 p.m. (5 p.m. ET), Wolfinger said.

[huntone]

After listening to the lastest from CNN Online, I am certain in my mind that this perp went to that restaurant to be caught.

Why would he do this? My thought is the Dylan escaped. And the perp decided to basically give himself up before Dylan could reach someone to turn him in.

Now the problem is where is Dylan? he did not make it out yet. Is he wandering the woods lost? Did he take a fall that injured him or worse? How close is he to the original murder scene or the restaurant Shasta was rescued at?

Paula would probably be better at this than me, but I would suggest that Dylan is no more than 10 miles from that restaurant maybe as little as 5 miles.

I hope there are some skilled trackers close by that can backtrack the perps jeep from the restaurant. Dylan needs to be found alive, if possible.

I personally do not see this perp as a murderer. he could have killed Shasta but did not. And his long rap sheet does not include murder. I would not suggest he killed those dead at the original scene of the crime. Which means that he did not kill Dylan.

[Paula]

Why do I think this predator took Shasta right into the very neighbourhood she would be spotted? Because he has been tracking the family, that is Steve, and those he knew. He is a computer coder, as he suggests. Well I too have that same handbook.

He looked square at the cameras as he walked as defiant. No I do not think he went into a house and killed the others, and in my behaviouralisms I wonder if who did wanted the direction moved from a hot spot back to this area. It would make sense. Or his own twisted logic as told Hope is that something is wrong and she felt it and could not cognitively work out what it was. Strangely in his younger days he looks just like Ian Brady, another narcissism personality disorder.

The website is a blog for his own identity, the website he mentioned never was uploaded or existed and would say that would be on the university server. Criminals of his ilk are now taking university courses and teaching others in bloggingl encrypting and transferrance of intelligence. ie. one learns forensic psychology = teaches 100 others, etc.

It does not compute that 20 years ago he burned a boy and did what he did and 20 years later he would not kill.He is saying in his language dissociation as there is some force making him do what he does. I hope to God someone else but this monster has Dylan, that is not of the same warped mind. He had Shasta and from what she has roughly said it seems she and he were not together is my assumption from what is said.

I am wondering whether there is a woman somewhere in this as six weeks is a long time to care for a little girl who would need cloths, who bought these, and her bedding, and where would that be. I am praying and hoping Dylan is alive and best bet is if this creep was not the guard looking after them. Again look at the geoprofile map.

Place a pin at the house of murders, then at the Denny's, then at the place he worked, then at the university, then at N Dakota house, then at place plates stolen, car stolen, and then tie to each a piece of
cotton. The shortest stretched distance will location his place of dwelling now, as all threads make the same connection. This is a technique in Criminal Shadows of Professor Canter and I am still trying to utilise it. In not having a road map, and ordinance survey geology map this is something you can do.



Then if no more visitations to a crime scene, I would also put the link to Steves house as this creep would revel in driving past knowing he has Shasta. He would do this to bolster his own ego, and get a kick out of it, which is why he went to Denny's. He did not want to be caught but his neurochemical charge had hit optimum like a fix and he had to increase it. That is how I see his mind working even now.

It shows from his entries in his own blog and view of the fifth nail and compassion. The missing figure of Christ is not accidental. He did not put the image name to the A HREF as in looking at source code. He could not for he does see his OWN face there. The association with this nail as word nail is significant as is Happy Joe. It is a joke for the Joe he knows is not happy. This is a person not a place. Again, I got icecream and because I have only been to Vegas area and LA wondered why the other side would come in and give me a scene as usually it is word, or place connected.

The key to where Dylan is has to be in that blog. Take the words and fit them to a place that reads in your mind as you read them. Most persons see when they write a scene that is in the message as word association. Where is his mothers house is the first chill that comes up. I am glad I got to see Steve on tv with Geraldo as his joy and his love shines like a beacon. How could he have envisaged his ex wife would get into stuff that would and did put her kids in harms way.

[huntone]

After reading Paula's last post it struck me that there are no good "manuals" readily available to instruct the common citizen in how this tracking is done by people that post here and the police themselves.

To phsyical track (as I do) I have found that one the best trackers alive, Tom Brown has a tracking school in Florida and a website. He has also written excellent books on tracking which I would suggest people read and study. These are available through his website.

As to the methods and technigues Paula and others use I have not been able to find any type of manuals or such that common people could make use of. Therefore, I would suggest that she put one together.

My point here being that if more people knew how to do this, there would be more people found. It is evident from this site that a lot of people are concerned enough to get involved, they just do not know how.

Somehow, they need to be taught. Especially LE since too many cases include them dropping the ball. But as the old cliche states - All Evil needs to succeed is for a good man/woman to do nothing.

[LadyBlue]

[glow=red,2,300]Joe Duncan’s blog[/glow]
I am scared, alone, and confused, and my reaction is to strike out toward the perceived source of my misery, society. My intent is to harm society as much as I can, then die. As for the “Happy Joe” (Jet), well he was just a dream.

The bogeyman was alive and happy long before Happy Joe. I was in prison for over 18 years, since the age of 17 [for sexually assaulting a 14-year-old boy at gunpoint and burning him with cigarettes]. As an adult all I knew was the oppression of incarceration. All those years I dreamed of getting out…

And getting even. Instead, I got out and I got even, but did not get caught. So, I got even again, and again did not get caught. So, I figured, well, I got even twice (actually more, but that’s here nor there), even if I’m the only one who knows, so now what? Well that was when the “Happy Joe” dream started.

I met a bunch of really great people, the kind of people I didn’t even know existed, but here they were, bunches of them, my neighbors, my landlords, my professors, my coworkers, and they were all good people, who were willing to give me a chance despite my past. They were willing to accept me and be my friend, something that was new for me, having been betrayed by many “friends” and even my own family.

So, I tried to make it work. But the problem was those demons. The ones who “got even” for me. They kept reminding me that if my new “friends” knew about them (and what they, I, had done to even), then so much for their friendship. So, “Happy Joe” was just dreaming, or pretending to be happy.

So, I’ve been accused of molesting a little boy. Those close to me know I didn’t do it of course, how could I, I’m not even a pedophile. Well, I’m not a psychopath either, I feel the full force and pain of everyone I have ever hurt, but that doesn’t stop me from doing what I need to do. Ultimately my feelings don’t matter, I learned that in prison. I have to carry out my orders or a lot worse than just me dying could happen.

[LadyBlue]

[glow=red,2,300]More Joe's Blog--Wrestling With Demons[/glow]
Yes, I am still alive. I honestly wish not, I just don’t know how to kill myself so it makes sense. Nothing makes sense to me right now. Last night I realized I was “scared and alone.

” Being scared doesn’t bother me as much as being alone, but it is a fate that I probably chose sometime before I was ever born because I’ve been making the decision to fight my battles alone since I was a small child. The current battle is of epic proportions (I do not make this claim idly either).

It is a battle between me and my demons. Only two people in the world have a clue as to the power and nature of my demons (besides me) and they will probably never read this. But just the same, these demons are stronger than even I gave them credit for, and now they are taking my best blows and not even staggering. I’m afraid, very afraid.

If they win then a lot of people will be badly hurt, and they’ve had their way before, so I know what they can do. I’ve been praying a lot and asking God for help. I’ve asked him to step in and intercede directly, because I see no other way at this point that I can win. If you are reading this, and you believe in God, please pray for God to help me defeat my demons.

God has shown me the right choice, but my demons have me tied to a spit and the fire has already been lit. I don’t know if the right choice is even an option any more!

[Paula]

I want a team of persons who are not against the system we have, but as Aruba has shown such research that is not in daily use, or known is making people power. The team Equusearch is saying they are investigating the tombs of the island from a tip that this has been done in the past. We and you, know as does Jack that being either a stuntman, a gravedigger, a grave examiner and geoprofiler that old cases become new cases as the easiest way of predator disposal patterns is from his own cognition.


Now many people must have seen Shasta with their daily brain as to mundane, repetative, and inside the box. What the waitress did as a human being was look outside the box when she was not cognitively looking for something lost. It is a night shift and perps know staff have to do the day chores and serve as well as beat long shifts. His blog shows me he has studied personality disorders and cognition well. He knew that this time which might be shift change, teabreak, supper break or high volumn was the optimum time as he is statistical in his geocatching and gps. Same as Dennis Rader this mind functions on order, not round numbers and plenty of odd numbers as integers.

This is how the subconscious recall and not the poster fed into her memory as she watched the face and the child, then autobiographical memory clicked.

Where did I learn mine? Well in insurance my boss then told me every number plate is worth a thousand dollars equivalent, so I collect van logos and the telephone numbers to beat the cold call system. I sat and listened in hotel receptions and ran my office from there. Business men would ask what I did as I set page messages to my boss, who had me paged and there the instance of collating minute detail began as Jack knows of autobiographical memory banks of familiar subjects. I went for the top end of the market and leared to people watch as to when it was a warm call,and when to close. This in Law Enforcement is used in a different way, but is the same, but a different language.

I think that a seminar in Vegas if Casinos will fund would be good for a lot of clients who wish to understand not just how to find a person missing, but how to listen to clues that are outside the box. Each of us has a unique way that is not grammatical that is like mime. To represent as in charades we guess what is being portrayed, a person who has that profession has insight or intuition.

I think the banner above needs taking down and the roles required as events have come to pass that no single skill is acceptable. In Psychic and remote viewer, it is not as a fireman, you cannot call yourself either,although for want of a better word it is fitting to call it something. I do not call any one a specific as what comes up time and again in role play is some skill that the waitress showed as Ms Deahn, hope I spelt that right in looking out of the box at a very unusual time in a mundane repetative task.

Although it is obvious that a kidnapper of children will take them to a fast food place, it is too obvious. To placate kids you take them for icecream. To shut them up you take one and make fear for the other in such well known situations, hence why Shasta did not cause a fuss.

I ask that a real victims family head any future venture as a role model of empathy, and if he would Steve is just that person. Now is not a good time as he has the world praying and hoping for him.

What people need as the Ms Deahn, showed is some form of person to go to. This could have cost her her life, and I know she thought of that when she approached with the very gender specific excuse of a mother that a milkshake would be the thing for the girl. I bet she kept eye contact on Shasta and not on him. This shows there are people out there that interfere for others sake. Some say if that had been anyone else the would have walked on by, as the customers did. The reason is society is so full of stresses that our minds are on a different level.

When I ask Jack how a vehicle falls he tells me, and I can recreate it and see it as it is. When I listen to the words on screen of others as written or spoken like Earl I can see he is showing me that if there he could show me, and not explain. That is good.

People have different methods of teaching from that memory of knowledge. The sherriff's and law enforcement do not know when a situation will take their life in a mundane enquiry, or of the motive of a person who seeks to help. I have seen many cases locally that have resulted in tragedy. So while we armchair researchers, carers, detectives and those who want to make difference communicate, somewhere there is an LE that is not going home in the same condition he or she came in with. Bear in mind what is voluntary is of enthusiastic time we have, no double shifts, no march up the parents door with the hat under ones arm with the bad news.

I hope we can come to a coming together of all concerned in helping with skills that maps a new way or an integrated way of helping LE find the evidence that will lead to convictions and people being found. A rottwheiler as I have one of my daughters is a big dog with a puppies mind, it is however a very feared dog due to its size and negative association.

I would put a baby chick next to that dog as evidence that the softest mildest thing is can bring down a predator as well as a big one, as unity.

[Paula]

Little Joe Road, the scene of forensic recovery in Montana. Duncan called himself 'happy joe'. language often places words as neural cues.

I am so sad for the family she has left, for Steve, her aunts and for Shasta, but happy thanks to a none expert she got saved. Proves that some have to work in jobs for money that does not give such insight into the qualities they could have, if they had the money, education and chance. Is that not what I have been saying of labelling. Ms Deahn is an inspiration to all low paid workers who are invisible remote detectives out there. My prayers and candles are lit even though the rain falls its tears here. So very sorry to hear the news on Fox as we wait for confirmation.

[gestalt]

This Duncan had a past history in Washington state. My best guess is that he corresponded with some connection involved in drug trade (via internet), and they told him about the vulnerabilities of the mother, etc. and how they were getting "even" re: drug debt? and as a sideline had some orphaned children to sell--would he be interested?

Remember that he had the rage toward the boys, so it would not surprise me to hear that he murdered Dylan because he fought him like hell.

Then he had Shasta, and because his predilection wasn't with girls, he was trying to find a buyer for her?

He was with a child at 2 a.m. (I would think that would alarm people in itself).

[gestalt]

From the Blog, as Mystic posted:

I am scared, alone, and confused, and my reaction is to strike out toward the perceived source of my misery, society. My intent is to harm society as much as I can, then die.

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I need to post this here, so I don't forget Mystic. I also think that in large part, Rodriguez was getting back at society in doing what he did.

Well, my post in this matter was much more detailed on the other board, more than a year ago regarding Dru.

[gestalt]

Sorry for the 3rd post here, but responding to Paula's commentary about skills that may be useful. While thinking about this, I am reminded of:http://www.johndouglasmindhunter.com/home.php

I remember reading his writing a year ago that getting inside of someone's mind is alot like what an actor does in preparing for a role. And, I have to say this is true, because I was an actor (all media) for over 10 years--also many classes and a degree in Social Sciences. I am also a rape and stalking survivor.

Please take the time to go to the John Douglas (Profiler) site--also I highly recommend the book (I read it).

Thank you.