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Post by LadyBlue on Dec 11, 2012 14:39:30 GMT -5
I don't know whether any of you are aware that I have spent the better part of 10 years come January listing missing persons cases here in my forum. I have devoted not only time but a good deal of research has gone into much of the information that I have gathered. Many will say, "well it doesn't take anything at all to copy and past information from other sites, newspapers etc". However, it does take a mind and a will for one person such as myself to care enough to do this, have any of you?
I was 48 years old when a beautiful young woman, Dru Sjodin hit my heart square on, when she went missing, and it is due to her case that I started this forum. I'm now 58 and I'm still screaming into silence each and every damn day that I post info on these missing people, LE IS NOT giving enough infomation out to the public, they aren't giving enough information out to the families, and they aren't permitting the public to help them. In many, too many cases they aren't informing the public that there is a possible killer living in their midst. What on earth are they thinking?
There have been instances where a missing person has been found 100 yards or so behind the last place where they were last known to have been, and it's taken sometimes as long as years to find bones. Now, what is that about? Is it inept police work? Is it lack of caring about just another person missing? Is it that they feel the person ran away, went missing on their own? I don't know, but I'm damn weary of it all at this point.
It's now or never at this forum. I've either made a difference here, or I'm going to just bring the forum to a complete halt. There are many other forums out there that seem to be flourishing, so this one is of no importance, just another missing person forum. 10 years is long enough for people to open up their eyes and see where the real problems lie. If your child be it any age child or even adult goes missing, good luck, because they will just be another statistic, nothing more, nothing less.
In the meantime, I fully intend to research the inept practices of law enforcment, and fully intend to list them here. Law Enforcement are suppose to be our protectors, our advocates, and instead they seem to be just as much a problem as the criminal population. I will go out on a limb for those who are still missing, and I WILL AWAIT THE DEBATE. If there is no debate, then I will know that no one really cares one damn bit about those around them who are suffering and still awaiting news that will probably never come or will come as deceased remains located.....HEAVEN HELP US ALL!!
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Post by Annie1004 on Dec 11, 2012 15:50:24 GMT -5
Hi, Mama: you have an excellent forum and I actively participated until the Shunick cas was "solved." Since then, I followed Jessica Ridgeway, Kortne Stouffer, Brittney Woods, and now Dylan Redwine. What I should be doing is looking for a job 24/7!!
I too share in your frustration re LE. These cases are practically cold before anything is half-assed started. Take Kortne, for instance. What the heck has LE done? One would think with the very small window of disappearance that this case would have been a no-brainer. After all, LE was there 3 times in a 24-hour period. i find it frustrating -- yeah, even pointless sometime -- to follow cases with non-cooperating LE, witnesses, etc. Same with Brittney.
I do hope you keep your forum and perhaps with enough of us we can make a difference.
BTW, how has life been treating you? Still split from the roommate? How are your pets doing? Hope all is well !!
Best, Annie
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Post by Annie1004 on Dec 11, 2012 15:52:19 GMT -5
Oh,I almost forgot: thank you for your heartfelt and welcome email today!
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Post by LadyBlue on Dec 11, 2012 16:01:40 GMT -5
Hi Annie, so nice to hear from ya, I just had company come in my door, I shall return shortly.
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Post by LadyBlue on Dec 11, 2012 19:18:45 GMT -5
Hi, Mama: you have an excellent forum and I actively participated until the Shunick cas was "solved." Since then, I followed Jessica Ridgeway, Kortne Stouffer, Brittney Woods, and now Dylan Redwine. What I should be doing is looking for a job 24/7!! I too share in your frustration re LE. These cases are practically cold before anything is half-assed started. Take Kortne, for instance. What the heck has LE done? One would think with the very small window of disappearance that this case would have been a no-brainer. After all, LE was there 3 times in a 24-hour period. i find it frustrating -- yeah, even pointless sometime -- to follow cases with non-cooperating LE, witnesses, etc. Same with Brittney. I do hope you keep your forum and perhaps with enough of us we can make a difference. BTW, how has life been treating you? Still split from the roommate? How are your pets doing? Hope all is well !! Best, Annie Kortne Stouffer's case is another one that absolutly nothing is coming out from the authorities, NOTHING. What the hell are they thinking exactly? Apparently there are no POI, but then how would we know that, and what must those who live in Palmyra thinking now, is there or is there NOT a killer in town? No one has been warned, nothing from the media, nothing from law enforcement, NADA!!
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Post by Annie1004 on Dec 11, 2012 21:36:13 GMT -5
Ah, Kortne's case is the one I started following from the beginning. I even accidentally became "friends" with Milton Rodriquez when I checked out his FB page. This is definitely the worst-handled case I have ever followed - and right from the get-go. Heck, the Palmyra PD never released the name of the second officer who visited Kortne and CP that night. I understand the police tape is still in place at her apartment many months later. Why is the Stouffer family so quiet? This case will never be solved without a confession or someone stumbling on Kortne's remains. LE has done nothing, I am sure, and never even wanted TES or KK involved or the FBI. Disgusting. It is as if there is a personal vendetta against her or the Stouffer family or both.
If I lived near there, I would be hounding LE and the local media. Someone knows something. In the meantime, the racetrack boys continue partying non-stop with nary a thought about their so-called buddy who disappeared on their watch. I would think this story would have caught the media's attention - has it all, as they say, young attractive free spirit, drugs, sex and rock 'n' roll. And the boyfriend never once made a plea or went public. Wendy continues to lament on her FB page about Kortne, but what else has she been doing? With a $35,000 reward fund, I would be spending some of that money on a PI. Obviously, the fund hasn't brought Kortne home.
Grrrrrr.
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Post by foxfire on Dec 12, 2012 9:04:33 GMT -5
Hey Mamamia and Annie.. Mama, you know that you are preaching to the choir.. Been following the July 13 abduction of; Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, and Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, Iowa.. Tragic.. Received 30 day TO from WS in Nov for labelling Austin Sigg, murderer of Jessica Ridgeway(CO) a prolific sadistic psychopathic serial killer. Seems he hasn't been convicted yet-GAG Order on his past evil trail of terror.. Well y'all know the routine..LOL Teamed up with another person (computer geek)& went up to TN to lend a hand in two runaway cases and an abduction. One RW was located in a crackhouse & the other in TX. Both returned safely. The abduction; a long story-the victim was located by my partner. He heard groaning & found her tied up in a horse trailer at a rest stop. 911 was called and LE didn't respond. Said all is well that ends well.. Next day parents hired a lawyer & had the truck & Htrailer hauled to a storage yard. Seems the abductor had mechanical trouble. Left his billfold on the motor of the truck. His AL Dr License enclosed. He was arrested the next day. The story is very long and has more twists & turns than a long distance truck driver with hemorrhoids..The girl was shook up but unharmed.. Mama, hang in there. I remember Dru Sjodin's case vividly. Put the heat on the heat/LE. Seems that is all they understand. Ya have to be persistent, vigilant, and have no fear, but they will listen if you yell loud & long enough. Force them to use their most valuable resource; The American people/public. Also been following Israel Keyes alaskan serial killer case(Samantha Koenig-Alaska). He is an anomaly, imo. With the advent of the internet, smart phones, modes of transportation, gps, etc., in many cases behavioral and geographical profiling is rendered useless as is shown by Israel Keye's unconventional trail of terror. Keyes; a stealth predator gives new meaning to jurisdictional linkage blindness and could have rewritten the book on rules of prey.. They say that to understand the artist, you have to interpret their artwork. Israel Keys' art was very dark and very abstract.. As y'all know I have been backtracking gary hilton for over 4 years after he abducted meredith hope emerson; blood mtn hiker. He wrote the script for a movie in 1994-deadly run-hunting humans. The movie was not only his autobiography but was based on alaskan serial killer robert hansen. Deja vu-http://www.alaskadispatch.com/articl...angled-himself Autopsy reveals confessed serial killer Israel Keyes slit wrist, strangled himself Alaska Dispatch | Dec 05, 2012 Details released in abduction, murder of Samantha Koenig by confessed serial killer Keyes The Alaska State Troopers reported Wednesday that confessed serial killer Israel Keyes, while awaiting trial in an Anchorage jail cell for the abduction and murder of an 18-year-old barista, killed himself by slitting a wrist with a disposable razor that was "imbedded" in a pencil, and additionally strangling himself with bedding material. (Read More) Irony: Israel Keys, read up on other serial killers and said he could relate to Ted Bundy. He comitted suicide on the same day as The Frozen Ground was originally slated to be released. (warning graphic/nudity) Trailer- www.ivid.it/film/8305/FROZEN+...iler+Originale "based on Robert Hansen: alaskan serial killer- Hunting Humans.. SK Hansen was tagged 'Butcher Baker' in the novel about him. He owned a pastry shop where all the LE hung out. That is why that he was oblivious to them although suspected for years. FBI John Douglas profiled Hansen as a shop owner with a lisp. He had a lisp & a shop, a pastry shop... Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all.. Wolfscratch
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Post by PlainJaneDoe on Dec 12, 2012 9:53:41 GMT -5
Hi Mamma, Annie, & Foxfire - I am here. I hope that you don't let go of the forum, Mamma. You have unique and valuable skills (mapping and researching) and priceless dedication.
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Post by LadyBlue on Dec 12, 2012 10:05:54 GMT -5
Hi to both of you Annie and Foxfire and my question to your statement Foxfire is:
Mama, hang in there. I remember Dru Sjodin's case vividly. Put the heat on the heat/LE. Seems that is all they understand. Ya have to be persistent, vigilant, and have no fear, but they will listen if you yell loud & long enough. Force them to use their most valuable resource; The American people/public.
HOW? LE is so damn arrogant! This small forum is doing nothing whatsoever to help anyone. No one has cared now for years, so why should they care now. I'm frustrated and angry.
Earl Hunter was asked to help on the Jessie Foster case on human trafficking, he is living in Vegas so was able to try to do what he could from that angle, we also have Kara Nichols who may be in the same position, and yet LE deem those two cases, as well as many others not worthy of putting out the effort to find them, the news media isn't picking up on those stories as they should. We have Brittanee Drexel still missing, we have Kortne in PA. I have been following all those cases and more very closely. I am reading and posting here about Lizz and Lyric, what a terrible, terrible thing. I was following Jessica Ridgeway's case, where Austin Sigg dismembered her.
What do I need to do to get the word out to the public and to LE and to the media that there are real people out here in the world, not only in cyberspace that want to help? What is it going to take to get LE to open up some communications? What's is going to take for them to put out information to the public so that they can protect themselves and their children from the likes of Austin Sigg? If I'm not able to reach them and my members in 10 years, I need to be devoting my time to other things, because I'm not doing any good here by myself in this forum. It's very simple, and very plain to me.
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Post by LadyBlue on Dec 12, 2012 10:07:11 GMT -5
Hi Mamma, Annie, & Foxfire - I am here. I hope that you don't let go of the forum, Mamma. You have unique and valuable skills (mapping and researching) and priceless dedication. Hi PJD, I'm here for now, but I can't guarantee that I'll be here for much longer, Mama is tired and frustrated. Glad to see you.
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Post by foxfire on Dec 12, 2012 12:07:39 GMT -5
Hi Mamma, Annie, & Foxfire - I am here. I hope that you don't let go of the forum, Mamma. You have unique and valuable skills (mapping and researching) and priceless dedication. Hi PJD, I'm here for now, but I can't guarantee that I'll be here for much longer, Mama is tired and frustrated. Glad to see you. Hey PJD. Agree with PJD, Mama. Ya have to pace yourself.. Remember the Fire Dept saying; 'horses have been long gone, but the horse manure lingers'.. LE change doesn't come quickly, nor does it come easily.. Mama, I'll be seeing Britanee's family in about 3 months at the CUE missing/murder conference. Been almost 4 years since she vanished. Her mom Dawn is a very strong woman. She ain't giving up.... www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/brittanee-drexel-age-progression_n_2250960.htmlDavid Lohr who wrote the above article is the catalyst for BTK; Rader's capture... Wolfscratch
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Post by mesbra73 on Dec 14, 2012 17:17:32 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I wasn't sure where to post but on this horrific day I just wanted to say hi and I hope you're all doing well. I have stopped trying to understand this mentality that people have that they think it ok to kill, kidnap or hurt others. I understand people have mental issues that may need addressing and I think we all need to be more accountable. If you know someone or you have heard someone talking about harming others, say something to someone they are there to help. Interestingly in my last class we were discussing
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Post by mesbra73 on Dec 14, 2012 17:21:57 GMT -5
how high the numbers are for people who were aware or had heard information before something like this happened. The reasons were understandably; they thought the person was joking or they figured it was so crazy it would never happen. Sorry for the ramble but I am heartbroken and trying to figure out how to tell my son it will be ok to go to school Monday. I know you are people who genuinely care about others and know how important it is to even help others get the help they need if they are having a difficult time, we all need to do our part to assure these type of things never happen again. Melissa
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Post by LadyBlue on Dec 14, 2012 17:48:49 GMT -5
Unbelievable isn't it? I am just stunned. 20 babies died today in their school, where they should have been safe. What the hell is wrong with people? Tell me how does one miss a family member capable of doing something this hidious? I don't get it, and I never will.
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