Dr. Maurice Godwin

[LadyBlue]

[glow=red,2,300]Well-Known Criminologist To Use Unique Method in Tara Grinstead Search[/glow]
It may not seem like much, but a well-known criminologist is hoping that a tiny chunk of clay pried from the bottom of a car and a fragment of pine bark pried from the recesses around a fog lamp could hold the key to solving the months-long mystery of what happened to missing school teacher and beauty queen Tara Grinstead.

In fact, there is a possibility that those seemingly minute clues could help locate Grinstead whose disappearance last October has baffled investigators for months, said Dr. Maurice Godwin, one of the nation's leading proponents of the science of geographic profiling.

Godwin, a former police officer turned academician who has worked on several high profile missing persons cases in recent years, told Crime Library today that he has been asked by the missing woman's family to join in the probe and expects to arrive in Ocilla early next month.

It is, he says, a singularly challenging case for the criminologist who has made his reputation by matching geographic clues to other evidence to identify potential suspects or locate missing remains. "There's not been anything found," he said. "The last place she was seen was at home, so I don't have anything that can give a geographic coordinate on anything else."

Ordinarily, Godwin, whose work has been featured on several national television programs, begins at the scene of a crime, places like "a body dump siteor where evidence might be found, like a purse laying by the side of the road," and enters them into computer where a specialized program he developed while studying for his doctorate, runs a series of complex calculations and then spits out a geographic area where a potential suspect might live or work. Authorities can then compare that data to information they have about potential suspects.

But in a missing persons case, such as the Grinstead disappearance, Godwin has to use an even more complex system, he says. Called Reverse Geographical Profiling, it involves compiling whatever information he can about the missing person's last known movements and about the people they were last known to have contacted and trying to match that to any evidence that might help to provide a location.

And it has been successful in the past. In 2003, for example, Godwin pinpointed within 9/10ths of a mile, the location where the body of a slain 23-year-old North Dakota woman would be found, no small feat considering that authorities had believed that the body could have been anywhere in 3,000 square mile area.

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[hello]

Godwin didn´t tell the truth in 2003 - i asked ND Police - he tried to put himself into a better light by shifting others " a little bit away" ... he is a seller of his duties, he is a business man -- and makes money in an uncomprehensible way with his cases -- i too have the feedback of families who asked him for help - he left with no good impression -- sorry

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to prevent myth making - try to ask the families he worked with or the involved police staff (if they will tell you - ) ... Dru Sjodin had been found by a retired police officer who had no knowledge about Godwin ... what Godwin told 9/10 of the percentage of the police staff would have told too ... the person who found Dru didn´t make such a market selling out of it ... where is the name of this person, who makes the people who did the job nameless ... is this ok ?

forgotten it was a teamwork ?

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and to end the discussion from my point of view ... the point Dru had been found points into the direction of geographical profiling and not to reverse geographical profiling ... one can simply say mental mapping ... you can gain this knowledge by experience ... it´s not a mysticism ... do use your powers helping tp prevent a case like Dru´s happening again ... if you re able to solve the part of only 1 per cent of a question from hundred questions and you solve in all these questions 1 per cent you reduce the field (not the questions, the field) to 99 questions ...

[LadyBlue]

Well, I'm not exactly sure what your trying to say here, but I think I can take from it, that Dr. Godwin seems to only be out for making money and he will only take cases where he thinks that he can find the correct answers?

I know for myself, when I was working on Dru's case, all the hours I spent awake and thinking and calculating things, sort of from a geographical profile angle, and I came up with a location that I derived from mere circles that I made from the locations of the cell towers where her phone call hit, and also the shoe location, as well as Rodriguez's home.

The location where those circles met was the location that I felt would be the most likely for finding her body. As it turned out, Dr. Godwin had done the same thing, and we came within a mile or so on both sides of where she was actually finally located by that retired officer.

In other words, I didn't need to use reverse geographical profiling to do what I did, just plain old circles and where those circles merge. Let me know if you understand what I'm saying, and also please explain a little better what your trying to make us understand. Thanks

[LadyBlue]

Also, the name of that retired officer is here in Dru's section somewhere, I didn't place it here in Godwin's thread, because I was just a little irritated that he never even mentioned that I had also done some rather good work trying to do geographical profiling and I had been not only speaking to him on Dru's site, but also in many many emails back and forth.

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[LadyBlue]

And one more thing, just for the record here on my website. I've been keeping this site up now for many years, I did it alone for a long time, and now I have a man who is capable of doing many things, he is a tracker and if the police would only THINK before they sent officers and others into a crime scene, they just might be able to more efficiently located people who have been kidnapped or worse.

Earl Hunter and I have been attempting to get officials to realize this now for many months, we have posted our thoughts and plans for being able to go out to locations and do this, but haven't had any response to our threads on doing so. So I'm now with this discussion, once again posting this website, for anyone who has a loved one missing. We are available to do these things, but we need some response from real people out there to help us.

These are our email addresses:
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This is our website
www.geocities.com/abductionresponseteam/home.html?1135683098110

[hello]

the location simply fits into the system of geographical profiling and not into the so called reverse geographical profiling ... means godwin didn´t understand what he had made into "his" system ... i got feedback from families and godwin didn´t made any good impression to them ... godwin fools himself, anyone who knows about the stuff must see this ... he plays with the hopes of the families ... like a "wonderdoctor" ...

prevent the cases is the goal ... i choose this

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Or let´s say it with other words. If you want to help in any way – you have to be a person with integrity. Without integrity you´re not connected with reality, without being connected to reality you cannot track anything. Godwin isn´t an integer person. A system is working or doing the work – the work is mediated. The method is the medium. The angel is the method, not the person behind. A person who had been very important in these methods is Kevin Lynch. Lynch works in urban and landscape planning, his soft methods are combined with mathematical methods melting (with psychological stuff and so on) into what had become the geographical profiling. A geographical profiler needs no diploma nor certificate – anyone can say that he is a geographical profiler. It´s not a discipline you can study anywhere. It would be very easy to stop some things Godwin tells if this „gp“ would be a discipline or a regular job. From the view of a regular job – p e police officer, the geographical profiling isn´t a serious thing. Profiling often only is allowed to sustain regular methods. It has no power at court – so, police seeks to use methods which stand the court. It´s a question of money – if a method is evaluated enough to become a regular method, then to work with this method is „funded“. The success rate isn´t high enough.

You have to explain why you find something the way you did. To explain it to the court.

To have a number of points and then and then and then and some circles is a fuzzy system (see fuzzy logics). In Africa they try to find water with this method. Or they try to find contaminated ground with this method (things people want to hide). Godwins „reverse geographical profiling“ is a joke – he does know nothing an does not know who uses a method he calls reverse geographical profiling. Years before he did - ... Those people are a step ahead – means this works in a regular profession – from this point of view Godwin cannot hold his attitude of copyright for „his“ reverse geographical profiling. He works not within a regular profession – „his“ method is a part of regular professions in other fields – he invented nothing.


i am with Tara Grinstead

[LadyBlue]

Are you a family member of Tara's? Because if you are, I'd like someone in her family to use her dog, let the dog lead someone around. What he knows and could have seen that night, could take you to Tara.

I placed this request on her website, or sent it to the hotline email so that someone would at least think to try that method.

[huntone]

Dear Hello;

Other than being upset with Dr. Goodwin I am unsure of the point you are endeavoring to make here.

mystic and I did as much through the internet on this case as possible, and reached a few conclusions of our own. But without being able to be on the ground there have no way to verify our thoughts.

You speak of integrity and if you have or will investigate posts I have made on this site you will discover my thoughts on this. Personally I am not sold on most types of profiling as used on the internet or by the police.

You will also discover that the criminal is not my focus. i am about finding these people for the sake of the families involved and nothing else. I seek no money or credit for anything I may do in regards to discovering the whereabouts of these missing persons.

And as any good tracker will tell you tracking is more about what you do not find and what you sense in the area of interest. Thus tracking can only be considered half science.

Therefore when I try to locate a person I try to place myself with them. Thus I find it interesting that you finish that post with the phrase "I am with Tara"

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Have no contact to Tara´s family. Got feedback from families and i knew i couldn´t do anything. And made donations. And got feedback what people think of Godwin.

Huntone, to be with Tara is integrity. You will not miss her if you re able to find her. If one is not with Tara, one will miss her anyway – if this person is able to find her or not – skills without integrity are no skills. If a person takes money or not – it would be a burden to take money for a successful help – better turned into a donation for another case (or for a better world)

For myself i ve chosen prevention and trying to work things out without reducing the quality of life, without turning life into a prevention of crimes. As some others have in mind. I try this to integrate it into my job – from there into life – if it works. Then it works without me.

You must be very strong to integrate YOUR work into your daily life. It´s hard to cope with these happened situations.

I think about you and your (both of you) work

[huntone]

I do not think of myself as being strong, for each of these cases hurts my heart. Each new one brings fresh sadness and frustration to me, and to Mystic.

We are normal people with very limited financial resources. Our work is thus (at this point) restricted to the internet. This is what causes the most frustration for us.

She (Mystic) would love to hug each memeber of the families of these missing persons and show them that their sorrow is felt by many other people.

While I would consider my life full if I could just help end the suffering of one familiy by finding their missing loved one. I sometimes hate myself for not being able to find the financial resources to do on site searches for these missing people.

They (the missing and their families) need us. People like you, Mystic, myself and others we have met through this site. And I often feel like I am letting them down.

I guess the point I am trying to make is that finding these missing people takes the help of many of us. A team of people (the larger, the better) who know that our suffering cannot end until we help end the suffering of others.

To Hello - keep trying in any way you can, my friend. I know I will.

To all others - I issue this plea. HELP!!

"...for divided we fall"

[LadyBlue]

I must ask this, I feel as if I know you, we have spoken before. Did you work on Dru's case also with us?