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Post by mary on Jul 23, 2012 19:53:32 GMT -5
I thought she was talking about CH there because she said she doesn't know about BSL's involvement in that wreck. So she wouldn't know if he got any kind of sobriety tests That's how I read it, too, but I'm really confused in general. I think the flow chart idea is great. Or a family tree. When y'all start about the relatives, I get very confused.
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 23, 2012 19:54:21 GMT -5
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Post by wodalo on Jul 23, 2012 19:55:56 GMT -5
ill be the first to admit... im completely lost... somebody needs to put all this on a flowchart for me Whatcha lost about? im actually a little too lost to even answer that... i read carefully everything that was posted since coming here... up until about two days before some idiot went out to hide a rock and got poison ivy all over the place... everything passed that, about 150 pages i skimmed to catch up... which i see now i have not caught up at all...
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Post by PlainJaneDoe on Jul 23, 2012 19:57:28 GMT -5
The way I understood it - Claire was driving, Kevin Atchison and Ellis someone was in her car. Many stories have been told by Claire, but apparently Kevin's sister believes either BSL ran them off the road (and someone said he had a white truck back then also which is why I was trying to find that last night), or he was chasing them and Claire lost control. Claire, Ellis and Kevin were checked for alcohol and drugs - Brandon who was in the other vehicle was not. The report was written that Kevin was driving, but he was not - Claire was. I want to know who Ellis is. See if I can find out. Thanks. Actually that helps a lot. But I thought that Claire wasn't screened.
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Post by whoknew on Jul 23, 2012 19:58:55 GMT -5
im actually a little too lost to even answer that... i read carefully everything that was posted since coming here... up until about two days before some idiot went out to hide a rock and got poison ivy all over the place... everything passed that, about 150 pages i skimmed to catch up... which i see now i have not caught up at all... Wodalo - we all feel like that. Because this case is totally screwed up with screwed up relatives and twists and turns - and even a few with Tourets! ;D
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Post by aci on Jul 23, 2012 20:00:08 GMT -5
The way I understood it - Claire was driving, Kevin Atchison and Ellis someone was in her car. Many stories have been told by Claire, but apparently Kevin's sister believes either BSL ran them off the road (and someone said he had a white truck back then also which is why I was trying to find that last night), or he was chasing them and Claire lost control. Claire, Ellis and Kevin were checked for alcohol and drugs - Brandon who was in the other vehicle was not. The report was written that Kevin was driving, but he was not - Claire was. I want to know who Ellis is. See if I can find out. Well BSL had no vehicle registered to him at that point in time. So it would've been someone else's. She said two of the three occupants were tested. Not three and the other driver. It's to my understanding they never caught the other driver. That's why it's only speculation and town rumor that it was BSL. She said she doesn't know BSL's involvement in the wreck. That's something people would know if the other drivers had been caught So here's how I see it: CH, KA, and Ellis are in vehicle. CH driving. They wrecked somehow (rumored to be caused by BSL). It was said KA was driving on police report, but his sister believes it was actually CH. Very shady business with the handling of the investigation and the stories from Ellis and CH. Two of the three occupants were tested for drugs and alcohol (KA and Ellis) with the one not tested because of an uncle in LE (CH)
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 23, 2012 20:00:33 GMT -5
LOL, I just posted to Earl, "are you in trouble?" He says, "no".
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Post by whoknew on Jul 23, 2012 20:00:42 GMT -5
This is Kevin's sister talking about Claire.
This is the same girl that got sympathy by doing some tv footage for the effects of drinking and driving which she stated was the result of the June 19, 1999 accident. She led people to believe that my brother was drinking behind the wheel and that's why the accident occurred. Wrong...he wasn't driving...I don't give a crap what the police think. I have pictures of my brothers injuries and I tell you again they are NOT driver related. She was the only one to not be tested for drugs or alcohol. Why is that?
In addition, this is the same girl that stood at the cemetery where my brother is buried arguing with my sister in front of my Mother and said my brother was nothing more than "Maggot Food". Who does that? A sick individual is who. ------------------------------
Now I'm going to try and find out if Claire's uncle was LE also. And who Ellis is.
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Post by kelly on Jul 23, 2012 20:02:33 GMT -5
I think you are correct ACI, we just need to figure out who the cop in Claire's family is. Yes..and their uncles are more than likely friends
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Post by aci on Jul 23, 2012 20:02:43 GMT -5
This is Kevin's sister talking about Claire. This is the same girl that got sympathy by doing some tv footage for the effects of drinking and driving which she stated was the result of the June 19, 1999 accident. She led people to believe that my brother was drinking behind the wheel and that's why the accident occurred. Wrong...he wasn't driving...I don't give a crap what the police think. I have pictures of my brothers injuries and I tell you again they are NOT driver related. She was the only one to not be tested for drugs or alcohol. Why is that? In addition, this is the same girl that stood at the cemetery where my brother is buried arguing with my sister in front of my Mother and said my brother was nothing more than "Maggot Food". Who does that? A sick individual is who. ------------------------------ Now I'm going to try and find out if Claire's uncle was LE also. And who Ellis is. I knew I read that somewhere. So yeah, she's the one with the uncle in LE (and BSL too apparently). It's only rumor and speculation as to BSL's involvement in that wreck. And also the added mystery that LP's body turns up at KA's abandoned house sometime after he died
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 23, 2012 20:03:30 GMT -5
I looked Ellis up whoknew, there is really not much that I was able to find on him except his birthdate and where he lived. I hope you can find something.
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 23, 2012 20:04:48 GMT -5
This is Kevin's sister talking about Claire. This is the same girl that got sympathy by doing some tv footage for the effects of drinking and driving which she stated was the result of the June 19, 1999 accident. She led people to believe that my brother was drinking behind the wheel and that's why the accident occurred. Wrong...he wasn't driving...I don't give a crap what the police think. I have pictures of my brothers injuries and I tell you again they are NOT driver related. She was the only one to not be tested for drugs or alcohol. Why is that? In addition, this is the same girl that stood at the cemetery where my brother is buried arguing with my sister in front of my Mother and said my brother was nothing more than "Maggot Food". Who does that? A sick individual is who. ------------------------------ Now I'm going to try and find out if Claire's uncle was LE also. And who Ellis is. I knew I read that somewhere. So yeah, she's the one with the uncle in LE (and BSL too apparently). It's only rumor and speculation as to BSL's involvement in that wreck. And also the added mystery that LP's body turns up at KA's abandoned house sometime after he died So ACI, do you think that someone was at that time, trying to frame Brandon? Because that's what Earl was thinking.
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Post by whoknew on Jul 23, 2012 20:04:55 GMT -5
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Post by aci on Jul 23, 2012 20:08:42 GMT -5
So here's a break down of some interesting facts again:
BSL gets car registered in his name in 2003
Kasey Lyons finds bike and takes it home and oddly enough has ties to Church Point.
BSL's brother Josh trades in 5 month old caddy after BSL's arrest with conflicting stories form friends as to why
LP's body turns up at the abandoned house of KA after he died in a car wreck in which BSL is rumored to be the cause of.
In said wreck, LE and the two surviving passengers (CH and Ellis) have been very shady with details. CH was not checked for drugs or alcohol due to an uncle in LE
BSL's intake sheet from his prior arrest was destroyed somehow
Rumored BSL killed his uncle Black Venable over money. The murder pinned on someone else. BSL also has an uncle in LE
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Post by foxfire on Jul 23, 2012 20:10:29 GMT -5
Taking of the pics by BSL speaks volumes if verified. Although not uncommon among serial killers of late, if anyone was in doubt that he was serial. This leaves no doubt that his victims will be many. Gary Hiton, who also took pics & videoed his rituals. Guilty verdict came back in less than two hours & Death sentence came back in less than an hour for the abduction/rape/mutilation/decapitation of Cheryl Dunlap; retired FSU nurse(FL/2011) www.enotes.com/forensic-science/sexual... According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's (FBI) National Center for the Assessment of Violent Crime (NCAVC), while sexual predators do not always commit homicides, they do typically escalate their criminal sexual behaviors over time. Fantasy plays a key role in the lives of sexual predators, and they are reported (on the basis of extensive research and interviews with incarcerated and convicted sexual predators) to experience violent sexual fantasies well before they begin to act them out. Over time, they progress to the point of carrying out their imagined or fantasized scenarios with both willing and unwilling sexual partners. When sexual predators become lethal (that is, when they kill), they typically refine their means or methods of choosing, pursuing, abducting, and controlling their victims throughout a scenario that leads to the eventual sexual homicide.
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 23, 2012 20:12:48 GMT -5
BSL's intake sheet from his prior arrest was destroyed somehow
I want to know how this happened.
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 23, 2012 20:17:11 GMT -5
Someone, somewhere on the inside, has the answers. There is someone close to LE, in LE, or around LE that has power, now who the hell is it?
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Post by whoknew on Jul 23, 2012 20:17:22 GMT -5
So here's a break down of some interesting facts again: BSL gets car registered in his name in 2003 Kasey Lyons finds bike and takes it home and oddly enough has ties to Church Point. BSL's brother Josh trades in 5 month old caddy after BSL's arrest with conflicting stories form friends as to why LP's body turns up at the abandoned house of KA after he died in a car wreck in which BSL is rumored to be the cause of. In said wreck, LE and the two surviving passengers (CH and Ellis) have been very shady with details. CH was not checked for drugs or alcohol due to an uncle in LE BSL's intake sheet from his prior arrest was destroyed somehow Rumored BSL killed his uncle Black Venable over money. The murder pinned on someone else. BSL also has an uncle in LE Josh trading in his caddy is a big honkin' sign to me. What do you know about Josh?
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Post by LadyBlue on Jul 23, 2012 20:18:42 GMT -5
Is there someone in one of these family names who is in a high office of authority?
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Post by PlainJaneDoe on Jul 23, 2012 20:18:47 GMT -5
Thanks, sweetheart, I'm a college-educated woman. But verrrrry interesting. So Claire was stalked, or not, by BSL....ACI? What do u think?
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Post by whoknew on Jul 23, 2012 20:19:54 GMT -5
Someone, somewhere on the inside, has the answers. There is someone close to LE, in LE, or around LE that has power, now who the hell is it? I'm thinking BSL's uncle may be deceased after warching the video someone posted of Gary Lavergne giving a toast at his son's wedding. Who would Claire's uncle be? Do you have her family listed somewhere?
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Post by jurysout on Jul 23, 2012 20:20:25 GMT -5
ill be the first to admit... im completely lost... somebody needs to put all this on a flowchart for me I've been lost for days.
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Post by wodalo on Jul 23, 2012 20:20:47 GMT -5
this is all fooking crazy, and hard to comprehend the scope of it all...
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Post by wodalo on Jul 23, 2012 20:24:27 GMT -5
ill be the first to admit... im completely lost... somebody needs to put all this on a flowchart for me I've been lost for days. glad im not the only one that rug really tied the room together... did it not..?
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Post by whoknew on Jul 23, 2012 20:25:53 GMT -5
Personally, for what it's worth, I don't think anyone has framed BSL for anything he didn't do. I think he's done way more than we can imagine.
Claire obviously has had a hard life - and she's a liar. She's told so many stories about that night that no one will ever figure it out - unless this Ellis guy wants to talk.
At this point, I don't think the car wreck can give us any info to help find Mickey - now that I think back, we got onto looking for this info because someone had heard he was in a wreck the night he murdered LP and we wanted to know who the friends were in the car. Now we find out that he wasn't even in the wreck.
Just another crazy hairpin turn in this story.
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